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June 17th, 2015, 11:25 am

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TerminalMontage, June 16th, 2015, 12:32 pm


How does it look? I've been trying to improve my coloring.

Also, I have a bit of news for you guys. Side Quests isn't a comic Jeff and I want to do forever, it's more like a prototype of the animated series we dream of it one day becoming. Because of this, Season 2 pages probably won't be finished. They'll just be roughdraft pages like this:

SQ is relatively simple looking, but pages do take me a while to make sometimes. Roughdrafts are fun and quick, and I've been told they still capture the charm of a regular page. If I only did roughdraft pages, I'd be able to update the comic much faster, which would let us see what works and what doesn't, as well as see how our world evolves. I also abhor drawing backgrounds - that's really what takes me a long time. I hate coloring too. And it's mainly just me moping around because I know it's something I have to work through. But with this new found time I can work on promotional art for Side Quests (like my twitter banner ), as well as more youtube animations (like.. NoPUNintendo 3?) and our short film ideas.

More promotional and concept art for SQ would be good, it would keep Jeff and I inspired, and it would also look good to the people we will one day pitch to. I was told those business types aren't exactly the most creative people; artwork showcasing important scenes throughout the series would paint a better picture of the cartoon in their minds.

Ideally I want to finish Episode 8 before doing roughdrafts only.. But how would you guys feel if I started doing roughdraft pages with the next update? I'm not saying I'm going to do it, I just want to know what you think.

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Raglan Gamer (Guest), June 17th, 2015, 12:03 pm

I just want more Side Quests at the moment, whatever it takes for that to happen

Danny Two Thumbs (Guest), June 17th, 2015, 12:31 pm

I concur with the notion of additional pages, good show!

The_mad_one, June 17th, 2015, 12:31 pm

Liking the new colouring a lot!

I personally feel the roughdraft takes a lot of the atmosphere away. I'd be sad to see the quality drop like that.

Takeshre, June 17th, 2015, 12:58 pm

But the pretty colors! Well, in all honesty, given the infrequency of updates lately, a lack of color would be a fairly acceptable compromise. Won't be very nice to look back on and read, though. Seems like you should at least color in the rest of Episode 8, for consistency's sake.

Also, isn't a penguin in a tuxedo a bit redundant? Oh, and I'd love if that wasn't actually a monocle, just his natural coloration.

PiMaster, June 17th, 2015, 2:34 pm

I'd be perfectly fine with the rough drafts, especially if they make your life easier and you yourself are fine with it. We get this content for free, so we don't really have any right to complain about any perceived drop in quality like we're entitled to it.

I'd be really psyched to see this series animated. Even with static images you convey a sense of fluid motion which would come out really well in animation. Were you thinking of doing it independently (youtube, etc), or shooting for getting picked up by a network?

TerminalMontage, June 17th, 2015, 4:48 pm

I'll probably finish Episode 8 before going roughdraft, sometimes I just want to hurry up and get it over with! There is so much to come!

And, PiMaster, I didn't want to do youtube because I imagine this with high production value, but shows like Bravest Warriors look pretty good, so we'll see.

kevansevans, June 17th, 2015, 5:22 pm

Coloring looks awesome dude! Though personally I would of done something a bit different than a simple blue-to-yellow gradient for the setting sun sky, but that's just me. Maybe would of made the outer wall glow a little with a slight blur filter.

TerminalMontage, June 17th, 2015, 11:06 pm

Thanks! I added a bit of pink to the gradient, it was kinda bothering me. I originally wanted to put some orange clouds in there, but, they are in a city above the clouds!

And normally, I am one to abuse blurs. I just didn't feel like it this time! It wouldn't have hurt though!

Larkin (Guest), June 18th, 2015, 6:19 am

Well, I just started reading your comic, and I really enjoyed it, but to be perfectly honest, I really doubt your dreams of animation for Side Quests is going to come to any sort of fruition. I've seen the Side Quests animation and it's not something I'd want to watch on a regular basis.

So what you are essentially doing is retarding one good project to try and work on a failure that won't be seen outside of the internet, if ever.

The excuse that it's already simplistic and that rough drafts would be alright doesn't jive with me. It sounds like you are making excuses.

Maybe you should just finish your current story arc and then kill the whole comic project, because it seems like that's just what you want to do.

Luigi_96, June 18th, 2015, 10:27 am

Ooh, Gabby is not happy.

Also the rough drafts look fine. I sure won't stop reading just because of a style change~

TerminalMontage, June 18th, 2015, 11:44 am

@ Larkin

There are a lot of artists out there that want to make it in the industry, statistically it's unlikely, but if no one tried no one would do it. Telling someone you doubt they'll make it just because isn't very productive. Plus, I'd want the animated series to look better than one of my first animations, which was the best I could do back then with no real animation skill.

And I'll admit I was making an excuse; after working on this page in my free time after finishing back to back animations, I was frustrated that it took me an entire day to do the first panel, despite how "simple" it may seem, drawing it isn't that simple, especially if I'm a bit burned out. I will finish this season in full detail, but we have a backlog of episodes that I am really proud of, that may never see the light of day here. So I want to get some out in at least a roughdraft. It would be the same as me sketching ideas down in my notebooks, but people still interested in the series could see it, and I would hope that's better than nothing.

I'm sorry I whined about it. I have a lot of SQ and other original ideas that I want to let out into the world, but I can only work so fast. I also know how it seems when people talk about achieving great things, before they've done it. I'll keep the dream of SQ becoming an animated series to myself and to my Patrons until actual progress is made.



Nease01 (Guest), June 18th, 2015, 1:05 pm

i'm ok with the rough draft idea but i wold like to see them colored in on a later date. maybe you won't maybe you will who knows.

TerminalMontage, June 18th, 2015, 1:14 pm

Thanks Nease01! It's really all up in the air right now, it's more of a thought I'm sharing with you than something 100% set in stone.

Sike, June 18th, 2015, 10:44 pm

Just a little quick suggestion, if you did something like make the balloon string more noticeable and remove the lines from Jeff's fingers ( ), then your rough drafts could easily pass off as a gray scale comic

Sut (Guest), June 19th, 2015, 3:10 am

So only rough drafts. Blarg. But hey, the rough drafts look pretty sweet anyway.

TerminalMontage, June 19th, 2015, 3:49 pm

Thank you @Sike! Yeah, if/when I do roughdraft pages, I won't use red speech bubbles and I'll color characters in white so you don't see the background through them. It'll be spruced up a smidgin, but these roughdrafts I do right now are just quick roughs mainly for me.

Brett McGill (Guest), June 20th, 2015, 10:09 am

I'd be cool with the rough drafts for the webcomic. Honestly, your MH4U animation was pretty kickass and I'm excited to see you pursuing a future in animation.

Geniusguy445, June 20th, 2015, 10:50 am

I really really love the coloring in the comics. As said by others previously, I'd hate to see all color leave.

Something I haven't seen suggested: color the main characters and leave the backgrounds greyscale. Maybe with less details like brick lines and such.

Additionally, I did notice some of the panels in greyscale still look fantastic (e.g. panel 3). Maybe some full panels could stay greyscale as well, depending on the content.

I love the idea of more updates in a shorter time, but some of the delight from the comic does go with the excellent color choices.

Raglan Gamer (Guest), June 22nd, 2015, 3:11 pm

To Larkin
Please look up Terminal Montage's YouTube channel. His early animations are not indicative of his current skill level.

TerminalMontage, June 22nd, 2015, 5:40 pm


@Geniusguy445 Coloring only characters might be weird, I've also noticed how some mangas and webcomics have important pages colored and others in grayscale, I also think that's weird. I think it should be consistently one or the other.

But thank you all for your input! We'll see how things are going by the time this episode/season is finished. That'll determine if the comic will lose color or not!

Also, I wanted to get a page up this coming Wednesday, but it won't be happening. I need to finish a Lore before the weekend and the past few days I had a bunch of friends come into town for another friend's wedding. It's been chaos!

Sparker135, June 23rd, 2015, 10:38 pm

I would be sad to see a drop in quality, but even sadder to not see the end of this story, so do what ya gotta do if it's really what ya gotta do, ya know?

Cool (Guest), June 28th, 2015, 5:33 pm

I'd rather see them in colour but I'm sure that eats up a lot of your time, so going grey or mostly grey is defiantly a good idea, but at least finish up this season/episode/watchyoumacallit in colour

If you do go grey then I demand you do a 1940-50's dectevive episode, with private eye Jeff and his bumbling assistant jeromey =)

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